exit

let's not beat about the bush here but dubya and co are fucked.
that means the republican party is probably screwed for the next presidential election (heres hoping anyway...)

bush has been talking about his strategy for victory in iraq. says bush: "when the terrorists and Saddamists can no longer threaten Iraq's democracy, when the Iraqi security forces can provide for the safety of their own citizens, and when Iraq is not a safe-haven for terrorists to plot new attacks on our nation".

lets leave aside the rights and wrongs of the war and lets leave aside the fact that the occupation of iraq is (now) perhaps the main reason that there might be attacks on america (and the west) and americans (and the rest of us).
let us just think about the fact that once they committed to war bush, cheney and rumsfeld obviously couldn't be arsed to really think about what happens once you won, what happened once you got the regime change you were so desperate to have.

bush can't pull out now because the whole place is a shithole and is ready to explode and the only way to keep it under any semblance of peace (and that is stretching the term) is to keep american forces on the ground.
but even then they can't quite get it right.
fuck hearts and minds - lets just torture and kill.
so the american's are there for a looooooong time or 2008 when the democrats win back the presidency and withdraw.
but the real question will be: will it be possible to withdraw the troops even if you disagree with the war?
currently i don't think you can.

but good to see straw demand that the cia and government declare wether or not they are using britain as a stopping point in order to get prisoners to places where human rights violations can take place much more easily.
back in the day of the thatcher government when they were privatising and liberalising everything they could, i am sure thatcher and co would have come up with a torture possible zone to go along side the enterprise zones they set up.

anyway jack i have the answer to the question: "of course they are". and apparently cheney is trying to make sure that the cia can continue to use torture if it thinks it needs to.

gotta love ameria.