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Wednesday, December 07, 2005

condi

she is part of my top tory totty (american chapter) list.
and i fully expect her to be battling it out with hiliary for the presidency in 08.
but this week she must have been thinking when where the chants of "liar liar pants on fire" going to start.
america doesn't torture. mmm ok i guess she is telling the truth there.
america just makes sure that the people they want to have tortured get to the place they need to be to have electrodes on the genitals and aligator clips on the nipples (mmm another career for her... she could open up rice's ranch of retribution...)

now there is a part of me that has no problem with the torturing of terrorists (and yes i know one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...) in order to get information to save lives. but that torture has to be done quickly and efficiently and you have to confess to be doing it. the outsourcing of it just makes it seem like it is a branch of torture is us.
yes she has made all the right noises about the fact that america will use all the legal weapons at its disposal in the war on terror, but somehow i can't see them just stopping at the edge of the law. hell that's what they have the cia for (and why they are sending all these people aboard.....

so step up tp the plate the amecian civil linerties union. the aclu are suing the cia. only in america could an agent of the state be held responsible on the question of the illegal support and use of torture by someone suing them.... (meanwhile cheney is trying to make sure the cia is outside such laws that stops them from using torture....)
also deserving a mention if jack straw who is demanding information as to who have been on the 200 or so "ghost" flights that have landed in the uk to move on to a slightly less human rights friendly nature.

bothe seem to have gotten rice to admit mistakes may have happend and they may have been corrected.

like i said at the start of this i have no real problem with the idea of torture if it is going to get useful and time information, but when it comes down to something that seems to be no more than retribution it makes no better than the terrorist

1 comment:

ems said...

I'm sure it'll come as no surprise that I think torture is wrong whatever the circumstances. There have to be basic human rights. Not being tortured is one of them.